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[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (7 children)

You don't have a problem with Google dictating what you can and cannot do on your own phone? Seriously?

What's the benefit of that?

[–] petrjanda@gonzo.markets 0 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I guess I was brought up believing that if you do nothing wrong, theres no point hiding your identity.

I'm fine knowing the person who wrote the code of the app that I am about to install has had courage to identify themselves.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

That's interesting, where did you grow up? I grew up believing everybody had the right to privacy. And to not provide your identity to strangers on the internet

It's like gay marriage. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to. But don't support restricting the freedom of others because it won't effect you

[–] petrjanda@gonzo.markets 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I grew up in Czechoslovakia and Australia, more Australia really. There might be a genuine reason why google is doing it or not. Most things require an identity these days. You cant drive without an identity , you can't purchase alcohol without an one, of open a bank account. Where does your privacy feeling stand there I suppose you don't have any of that? I'm actually amazed with so much fraud on the internet governments don't require an ID to open a browser on your PC. Isn't internet like a network of highways really ?

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You need an ID for those activities because it is required by law. Apples and oranges. Your argument is a logical fallacy of false equivalency.

A government dictating what you can and cannot do by law is a completely different thing than some random company telling you what you can and can't do with a device you own.

And again, if you're uncomfortable with that - then you still have the option of only downloading apps via the play store where identities are already verified.

So again, it's the gay marriage argument - do you support the freedom of others to do something you may not want to do? Or would you rather restrict others freedom when it doesn't effect you? If it's the latter, then I think you're an objectively bad person.

[–] petrjanda@gonzo.markets 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Owning device is not the same as owning the right to the software that runs on it. Google is well within their rights to say if you want to code on android, show us your ID, it's not your ethical right to do as you wish with someone else's software. There may or may not be a valid reason (ie. Too many suspicious apps that have no ownership). You need a license to drive on a public road owned by government , you need a license to code on Google's Android . I can open up a restaurant that serves no alcohol and request people for ID when they walk in because it's my right. No law that says you show me your ID but there's also no law that says I have to let you in.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're just not gonna see eye to eye on this.

I want privacy and freedom. You want Google to dictate what apps you can use even though it doesn't effect you.

You don't give a shit about people who rely on apps that aren't from the play store. You cant seem to understand why it's bad because it won't effect you. It's selfish

[–] petrjanda@gonzo.markets 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You've put a whole lot of words in my mouth I didn't say. I just don't see it "necessary" as a bad thing, you can still install apps via side loading, but now you can feel comfortable that if you install an app that steals all your passwords you can actually point a finger at who did it and hold them to account. Not that I wish that on anyone.

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