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Well fuck me for enjoying the hell out of desktop linux.
I do too, clearly as does Linus. He's just talking about some of the issues that prevent it from getting adopted by the normies.
This was the most confusing thing to me when getting started with linux It was baffling to me that jumping from different distros would completely change how i had to install packages or push me to use flatpak. I genuinely could not wrap my head around how there were no universally accepted binaries between distros. And hes talking about this years ago before recent mass adoption...
I landed on an arch based distro because it seems like they have the most universal solution after jumping around. Curious to know, what distro In your opinion the closest to "getting it right"? Open to all not just @PhilipTheBucket
Steam I think is probably the closest thing to "right" for the problem he was describing. You pick your app, it downloads and then it works. There's some behind-the-scenes nonsense involved, but it is in actuality hidden from the end-user, in a way that it is not in any of the "we fixed the Linux desktop!" solutions I have seen that are in actuality just another instance of XKCD 927. I was actually really pleased that he brought up Valve since that was the example that came to mind when he was laying out the problem.
I think it is okay if Linux is bad on "the desktop," honestly. The world needs tractors and consumer-grade cars. They both have use cases. If what you need is a tractor, and you're comfortable with the fact that it's not going to work like a car, then a tractor will do things that are totally impossible with a Hyundai Elantra. That doesn't mean we need to make tractors just as user-friendly as cars are, so that people can have one vehicle that does both. It is okay for some things to have a learning curve. But I think the example of the difficulties they had with subsurface are really significant things, it's not just a question of "oh yeah it works different," there are things that are just worse.
I think something like Arch or NixOS is probably the closest to "right" at this point. There is still a learning curve, so maybe not for everyone, but it's manageable and things aren't set up in gratuitously difficult ways. Maybe Bazzite, based on what I've heard, but I have not tried it so IDK.
have not considered this perspective, and rolling with the metaphor Linux users are essentially rolling down main street with unsightly tractors telling car people how much better it is owning a tractor. when in reality we should be more honest a tractor is simply not for everyone. that being said I agree Arch fedora and nixos were the most user friendly tractors ive used, and similarly have not tried Bazzite, Steamos or chromeos but im hoping they become the "pickup trucks" of the PC world
I feel like the problem for consumer grade Linux is that the general population needs far more support than the industry currently offers.
Steam and Google seem closest to consumer grade Linux because the support they need to provide is subsided by their app stores and other services.