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You know what, I'm gonna do a quick rant. I fucking hate this fake AI shit as much as the next person, or more than the next person, but I don't see much engagement here or anywhere with a fundamental question we should answer. The AI industry is fighting against copyright, which, up until like 5 years ago, was a Marxist position. Arguing that Copyright was fundamentally a method of seeking rents and such. Of course, mechanical and now digital reproduction make this situation even worse for artists, but is it our fundamental fight right now to protect artists from copyright infringement (and lost rent) or to destroy copyright in general. It would be difficult and painful in the short term for those that rely on copyright, but society would think of some way to otherwise compensate (we have to believe this is possible, otherwise how will it work once we shift to a socialist society) and the AI industry will fail anyways (because of other contradictions). So should we not tactically Support this AI fight against copyright?
I don't think this is the end point of this argument, and I see the complexities (for example, what if ONLY the AI industry gets exemptions and for the important stuff, copyright only gets stronger?). But I have seen no engagement with this point
They are only fighting it insofar to protect their own profits. They happily trained all data on libgen and archive.org for free and now that most LLM models have that data the push to block access to such sites intensified. When it comes to these things laws are always weaponized.
They're weaponized against us, yes, but forcing Bourgeois elements to weaponized it against one another is a possible strategic win. None of the bad shit and bourgeois-lib faux-law stuff surprises me, that's why we need to think of the best ways to win anyways, not just fatalistically say that it's bad