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[โ€“] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 day ago (9 children)

This is ukrainism in action โ€” making yourself dependent on the US because of having to "defend yourself" against Russia

[โ€“] npdean@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Europe will never learn. They fear war so much that they shoot themselves in the foot. If they become financially independent, they would have a strong military that would stop wars from happening.

Switzerland is also learning that US cannot be trusted blindly because you are neutral. Things can and will fuck you when you maintain "dependence" on anyone else.

[โ€“] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

Switzerland is also learning that US cannot be trusted blindly because you are neutral.

They are not neutral, they are very much central to us empire, just in the western humanitarian/lib internationalism sense. Oh and basically the money laundering machine of the west.

[โ€“] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they become financially independent, they would have a strong military that would stop wars from happening.

If Europe had independent and strong militaries, they would (re)-invade West Asia and Africa

A weakened and contained Europe is a necessity for future human progress, otherwise they would recreate the imperialistic nightmares of the late 19th century

[โ€“] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

also Switzerland wears its neutrality like some sort of force field that absolves it from being complicit in contributing to imperialism.

strong militaries, famous for preventing wars

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