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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Half of us literally voted for it specifically and will defend it, the other half feel powerless. Most of us abso-fucking-lutely know it's happening. I've seen it in my daily life, people I interacted with just gone after years of being here, no recourse.

Then there are those that know and downplay it. "Well they were immigrants, they were stupid if they lost their greencard". When I reply with "uh, it's us citizens next" they are too afraid and hopeless to accept it.

[–] cheloxin@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I wish people like you would stop saying half voted for it and half didn't. In reality, ⅕ voted for it, ⅕ against it, and ⅗ don't have any accurate representation in this phony system of choice so they didn't vote at all.

[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's the system you have. It doesn't matter if you have accurate representation. If you don't hold your nose and make a decision, it will be made for you.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are much more likely to vote for something than against. That won't change by browbeating them. Only changing the system will have an effect.

[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can't change the system if people don't vote, though. So go vote. You can't just sit at home and lament how broken the system is, not participating, and then expecting it to somehow change without any effort. Not saying this is you, but the idea you're defending.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 20 hours ago

And you can't change the fact that you won't convince people to vote for you by browbeating them.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Eh, to be a bit more accurate, 1/5th voted for it, and 1/10th voted for a polite version of it

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate this so fucking much. You will NEVER have accurate representation. There too many fucking people.

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

We hate it too, but its important to point out that half of Americans aren't as hateful/brainwashed as the votes imply.

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