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[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 81 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

On the contrary: Amsterdam was rebuilt for cars in the 1950s-1970s, then re-rebuilt for bikes because they realized that they had made a terrible mistake.

[โ€“] Empricorn@feddit.nl 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So... it's not currently built for cars.

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The point is, it's not an "oh, it's just 'cause it's old and historic and couldn't possibly be replicated anywhere else" thing. It absolutely can be done everywhere; the only difference is that Amsterdam is one of the few places that's had the, frankly, good sense to do it. (I almost wrote "political will" there, but when you consider the fact that car-centric design doesn't even fucking work for car drivers themselves, it really is more a matter of competence than ideology.)

[โ€“] Empricorn@feddit.nl -1 points 11 months ago

it's just 'cause it's old and historic and couldn't possibly be replicated anywhere else

Not sure why you're so insistent on replying to your own strawman argument. The statement is "Amsterdam is not built for cars". That's it. That's what you replied to...