It's not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.
this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2025
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I actually lean more towards the side of "let the people talk." Some direct personal insults I feel like are maybe worth keeping away (I read this comment and was going to voice my agreement but then when I got to the "moron" part that instantly made me conclude, welp buddy, that's not productive). Mostly though I think the main asset of an alternative mod feedback community is that the dbzer0 admins are fine doing deletions and bans from YPTB for various reasons including "trying to stir up instance drama over our genAI policies, which are not up for debate." UP-FOR-DEBATING THE POLICIES IS LITERALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMUNITY. But, as soon as someone comes into it and disagrees with the dbzer0 admins on some issue, they often decide it is some particular category of not allowed debate, and ban the person.
There are some other examples on that page that to me are equally stupid, but that one takes the cake to me. If I were to make a competing YPTB community, I think that's the most important rule I would change, personal attacks being allowed or not is a lot less crucial than that to me.
This is a direct consequence of having that community part of dbzer0.
A community is still subject to the rules of the instance hosting it.
A potential alternative would be to have the alternative community on an instance with a very few rules, but there's none that I know of at the moment.
Israel, drag, AI, every topic would still come up in the comments of a new community, and the mods of that new community would probably have to take a stance on those, or just see endless slapfights in the comments
An instance whose rules include "the rules are not up for debate" has no business hosting a community for critique of moderation. I would actually expand that to say that it's pretty silly to have that rule in the first place, regardless of what communities you're hosting, but it does seem to be a pretty popular viewpoint here for some reason. I'm legitimately surprised to hear it from an instance that's described as anarchist. The .ml instances are at least more open with their political alignments and then consistent with them in their moderation in practice.
Scratch an anarchist and an authoritarian bleeds, I guess, lol
I understand why an instance staff wouldn't want to have posts questioning instance guidelines every week.
Interestingly enough, in the case of anti AI bans, that topic was discussed on https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49185248?scrollToComments=true , and it seems like both the mod and the person iniating the request found a way
So no, it's not really "Scratch an anarchist and an authoritarian bleeds"
Phillip hates that db0 isn't a carbon copy of his failed instance, therefore we're somehow not anarchists for not tolerating the intolerant.
We're just not going to see eye to eye on this stuff lol
Probably x)
Edit: just because you care about trans people