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[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 105 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (41 children)

Who TF isn’t using a password manager in 2025? Like how would you even function?

EDIT: Y’all need to stop replying with your password generation strategies. JFC it’s like you’re asking someone to pwn your shit.

[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Federal and State jobs you can’t use password managers.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My federal job came with one pre-installed.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends on your clearance level/what you have access to.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not gonna get specific, but, I have access to a shitload of sensitive personal data. It's more likely you ran into an agency policy rather than a federal policy.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No it is literally determined by clearance level. It is mandated.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah. My agency doesn't use clearance level to determine security requirements. It's likely your password manager policy is agency-specific.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

are you trolling or do you not realize this is massive liability?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I think they believe getting their fingerprints and having a background check means they have a security clearance or something.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Health records for veterans don't require a security clearance to be managed. (Personnel records for active military only require a Secret level clearance) You'll wanna take it up with whoever manages security for the VA about the 'massive liability' involved.

https://www.va.gov/securityinvestigationscenter/frequently_asked_questions.asp#q006

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lol so you do not have a security clearance.

Got it.

FYI if you had a security clearance, posting that you have one in your personal Lemmy account would absolutely be grounds for it to be revoked.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol so you do not have a security clearance.

If you'd paid attention, you'd notice that I never said I had a security clearance. Hell, I even outright said "My agency doesn't use clearance level to determine security requirements".

The fact that you put so much effort into proving me wrong that you lost sight of what I was actually saying says more about you than it says about me.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

At this point I am certain you do not know what a security clearance is.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This is how you get in my block list.

[–] naticus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Yeah idk about that. I've worked in state govt for a very long time and our cybersecurity controls essentially mandates we use one. I'm also in our security audit team and have to talk to state offices about our NIST controls regularly. And the NIST DOD controls are even more stringent than ours. Something sounds off.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay so remember the one or two ones you need there (try a passphrase!)

For everything else - password manager.

[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Federal I had about 15 passwords. The State job I had about half that.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yep.

I use pass phrases filtered through a mess of cyber chef.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I literally work for a state government and I use password managers for both work and personal.

EDIT: For clarity, the data is hosted on-prem. I don’t send govt credentials to the cloud like a moron.

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