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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (16 children)

Not the indigenous people's problem. If they tell you to leave, it'll be up to you to figure it out.

[–] chaos@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago (15 children)

I don't have another country waiting to accept me, and I don't particularly want to leave the only place I've ever lived, so if they want me gone, it is their problem. Are they tossing me in jail because I have the wrong ethnicity? Deporting me to a place I have no connection to?

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

I have no right to say what they should do and neither do you.

[–] chaos@beehaw.org -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I really didn't think I was being subtle here. I'm going to stop "just asking questions" and instead say that I'm surprised to see, in this of all threads, a sincere argument that there are some circumstances where it is okay for one ethnic group to systemically displace another, despite both groups only having that place to claim as a homeland.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

despite both groups only having that place to claim as a homeland.

Your claim isn't even close to the magnitude of their claim. They've been here for over ten thousand years. They. Own. This. Continent. And. Always. Will.

And again, we displaced them. We are the colonizing class. I am calling for the reversing of what was done to them, which necessarily includes giving them back control over the land. I'm not saying they should displace anyone, but they alone have the choice.

Instead of complaining that indigenous people don't have the right to remove you, maybe you should focus on contributing to decolonization so they have a reason to let you stay.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

where it is okay for one ethnic group to systemically displace another

Ah the old "reverse ethnic cleansing"... all you white supremacists are coming out to play.

The absolute gall of westerners whose ancestors literally did ethnic cleansing, to then yell that at their victims at the hint of returning stolen land back to indigenous sovereignty.

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