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[–] MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This reminds me of the Ashley Madison leak.

Like, obviously, these people are awful, and I'm not sad that they're having a shitty day, but I find it hard to cheer for this kind of vigilante justice. If they haven't done anything illegal, they shouldn't be doxxed, and if they have done something illegal, then they should be reported to the police.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This shit sort of is illegal, though, under hate speech laws. The police tend not to act on it too much, out of some mixture of fear of a backlash, and a natural bent to sympathy for the far-right.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If they're "just" buying memorabilia, then they aren't necessarily producing hate speech.

It's unclear what the site sells, but if someone bought a replica gun for a particularly tasteless Halloween costume, then they haven't broken hate speech laws. I think.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's true. I guess you could argue any of it could potentially be for educational purposes. You'd need to collect evidence on how the items are being used, as well.

That kind of nuance is something angry mobs are bad at, so I agree with OP there. I just wish the actual government cared more.

[–] Oldmandan@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

The human propensity for ignorance should never be underestimated; I can also see the possibility (to use an example product from the antihate article) someone somehow stumbled into buying shotglasses with norse runes on them because they thought they were cool, not realizing the broader context of the site. Is that likely? No, but again, people are really good at doing dumb shit. :P

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Agreed on all counts. We have due process for exactly this reason.

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And pedophiles who buy CSAM and never touch an actual child aren't producing child porn. But they're still obviously part of the problem.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago
[–] Octospider@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

It's one of those situations where I don't condemn nor condone.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago

they're literal fucking nazis