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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (43 children)

China has chosen to be the enemy the west and rules based order then.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (28 children)

No, you're not understanding what is being said here. The west has always declared China the opponent and they'll take China on when they finish their other conflicts like Russia. The EU has consistently asked China to stop Russia. China's just saying the quiet part out loud. Who in their right mind would help you after you constantly called me a threat and told me if Russia falls you're coming after me?

Edit for those down voting me, here's Kallas saying China is next, the person China is talking to in the article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQTS1RC50A

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

The west has always declared China the opponent and they’ll take China on when they finish their other conflicts like Russia.

Always? Citation needed. After COVID, maybe? Or did it start with tramp in 2016, maybe sooner at the 2008 olympics? Certainly in 1993 that was not the case when China entered the WTO.

And of course: nearly nobody in the EU wanted to fight russia or spend more on defense until forced to open their eyes on russia's reinvasion of Ukraine in 2022.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Since the Opium Wars. Churchill even talked about breaking China apart a la the Muslim World so that it can never rise again.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yeah, that guy's gone. The policy with China was to encourage it to become the Germany of Asia in the hopes that it would liberalize as it developed. Well...no...shit happens...

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, go on from there. Shit happened. What will be next?

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think anybody planned beyond that, by everyone's reactions. But it looks as if people read too much Fukuyama uncritically and not enough Huntington.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How about this from 2025?: Kaja Kallas: EU Must Focus on Russia Before Taking on China | Dawn News English

It is not like Sinophobia and Yellow Perilism suddenly stopped in the West. China sees what the West is doing to Gaza and the Middle East as a whole, and knows if it weren't for its might they would do the same to it. I see Westerners online openly daydream of breaking up China and post their maps of a broken-up China. Breaking up the Middle East and the Muslim World doomed it for over a century, why would China allow that for itself? They know they are next.

Also, why is liberalism mandatory? I don't want my country to liberalize. There are other systems that work just as well if not better than [mandatory] Liberalism. If Chinese liberalize that's their own business and if they don't that's their choice.

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