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[–] Chana@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It's a good bit, I admit.

I do want to note that in the Gospels and really basically everything remotely intended to portray "eye witness" events of regarding Jesus (still stories that copy heavily from one another, hardly multiple accounts), the main message is, over and over again, "Jesus is special, you must believe in him over everything else". Reading these texts, the message is not, "love each other and live in community", it is, "eschew all else if that is what it takes to believe in me, even if that means being kind to your enemies". Just about every parable is just iterations on the theme of, "Jesus is special, he does miracles, you need to believe over all else". The Gospels are written with the exoectation that this would all be wrapped up during their lifetimes, as in Jesus was coming back on Thursday so you better start believing and stop focusing on worldly things.

Which is to say, the figure of Jesus is not exactly socialist, as socialists focus on the material, on community, of creating a better world through the destruction of capitalism. The figure of Jesus is more like a hippie that says, "screw all of that, join my cult, nothing else matters".

Anyways do with this what you will. The "Jesus was socialist" angle is still decent agitprop because most self-proclaimed Christians haven't read The Gospels. Very few people are really engaging with the figure or reading critically, they just learn parables in isolation and a local religious figure tells them what to believe about it.

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn

“ ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it."

Matthew 10:35-39

Not a lot of love and unity from this fella if you don't like him the most. As you say, it's valuable agitprop but damn if it doesn't drive a bit of me nuts

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