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[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 51 points 1 day ago (26 children)

I'm not against people having money, but to have a thousand times more than most people can make in their entire lifetime is just taking it too far. There should be a cap after which you pay 90% tax or something

[–] lung@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Problem is billionaires don't make "income" and it's quite difficult to even know what they own, let alone how to tax something like unrealized gains on stock holdings that they are using as leverage to get loans

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At some point, somebody convinced people that unrealized gains were not actually income because you don't know for sure that you'd make that money, and I think that was a bad idea. Maybe unrealized gains aren't 1:1 the same thing as income, but the calculations of an income equivalent aren't going to be complicated.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Somehow property taxes are okay, though, even though we haven't realized the gains!

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This exactly. At some threshold of worth, you should get taxed an amount based on your worth that will be big enough to force you to realize some gains in order to pay it.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The issue with realizing the gains is that you have to relinquish control of your company bit by bit. However, you could have the company (which you likely control) give out dividends, or you could use the stock as collateral for a loan. Or just pay yourself a bigger salary.

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a good question: is it okay for you as a person to control a company that has grown that large? Maybe nudging people to give up control of entities that large is a good side effect.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Give up control to whom? Some megacorp with infinite money would just buy a majority stake (often referred to as a hostile takeover) and wind up owning everything to an even larger extent than today.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The employees who actually create the wealth. That’s to whom control should go

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Sure, but that's not what's going to happen as a side effect of taxing unrealized gains, like what was discussed in this thread until now. A gradual transfer of ownership to the workers would have to be nudged in some other way.

In competitive industries (read: tech) this does happen to some extent in the form of stock being part of the compensation, but that's not going to happen organically for every employment situation.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Try being rich you fucking idiot

It's a joke y'all, damn. Just pull up on your boots or whatever it is these rich people did to turn on the money

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking peasant, has even tried buying some money?

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Lol this guy gets it

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