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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (66 children)

Oh man it's gonna be a good day when Israel falls.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (63 children)

This website is collectively completely deluded. Every thread on this topic I see people (I’m assuming tankies and/or actual Hamas supporters) fantasizing about Iran destroying Israel with is… just laughable from an objective PoV.

I despise the Israeli government but regardless of my feelings towards them, their military is so much more advanced than Iran's, it’s not even comparable. And they have the backstop of a US carrier group, in case something does go wrong.

Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website. Makes it really hard to actually engage with people.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (21 children)

I know nothing about defense and everything I learned, I did so at NCD, but doesn't Iran have like 88 million people and Israel just 9 million, and Iran has like six times Israel's active personnel? Iirc they're one of the largest armies in ME.

Then again, just by sheer numbers Russia was supposed to overrun Ukraine, 1M dead later and they're still where they started plus few towns charred to the bone.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Iran has 82 million inhabitants.

The amount of people willing to die for this regime is much much smaller. 16% are Azerí, 10% Kurds and 2% Balochi, all groups who would rather die than fight for the IRI. Not that this would stop the IRI from pressing 15 year olds into service, but there wouldn't be many volunteers.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

They don't have to like the Iranian government to want to fight against Israel attacking them

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You are delusional that most iranians won't defend their country just because the regime is evil

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just listed you 3 major groups who do not see themselves as Iranian, because the country doesn't do that either.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

The Supreme Leader is Azeri though.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes sure they will side with Israel literally indiscriminately killing Iranians regardless on how they feel about the Iranian nationality . This is so stupid

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

This isn't about siding with anyone. You're putting words in my mouth. I never said the majority would not take up arms, I said there are groups who are ikely not to pick up arms.

There is no Iranian nationality, there is a core of Persian Iranians, who are considered the only Iranians and then there are peripheral groups. Those groups neither feel Iranian, nor do they like the central government.

[–] frozen_flaps@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

true. there was almost certainly a lot of inside help getting attack drones near the sites hit on Friday.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 1 day ago

There was aways collaborators and traitors in every war and conflict

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