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What are the pros/cons of piefed for someone who has only used lemmy?
I haven't used piefed myself but I wouldn't want to switch to it because I feel like it gives more power to downvotes and karma (or "reputation" as they call it):
Those are three of the twelve points listed as differences to lemmy on their features page.
I also don't agree with some of the points in their article on "PieFed features for growing healthy communities".
Yeah I'm not going to move to piefed for that reason either, I hate Reddit's Karma system, which is basically an ass kissing requirement to maintain social credit, though piefed takes it to the extreme by trying to exclude meme communities, to favor downvoters extra hard.
Also private votes seems like it'll be a nightmare. Good luck combating all but the most obvious vote manipulation.
The "low quality" thing seems... Kinda bad. If you mostly post in "low-quality" communities you'll gradually lose karma? That sounds like it's just punishing people who are more interested in shitposty meme communities.
The 'features for growing healthy communities' feels a bit opinionated in a way that makes me feel kinda gross overall in some places. I get what they're going for, and I want to be on their side... Maybe it's just the wording that gives me pause.
That seems aimed to create a very closed echo chamber.
Dude there's a built in social credit system that aims to embarrass or discredit people for having been downvoted too much, that's very different than an admin building their own tools to create that kind of echo chamber, they hand these tools out to everyone on a silver platter. They're on by default, literally every piefed server started with the default settings will have these. It's very different than specific admins choosing to create a platform like that with integrations. This type of social credit system is built right in and on by default, do you not see how this is a problem?
Sounds good to me.
Well, that doesn't matter for blåhaj, which disables downvotes, at least
I find a reputation system good, however it should use percentages instead of points to make it different than what the karma system in Reddit was. People are less likely to farm for upvotes when it can only show 100% max.
Afaik piefed does not really show the reputation percentage to anyone (I might be wrong), but just shows a "low reputation" when it is under a certain percentage.
I see what you mean on the growing healthy communities bit.
That plus private votes, nah, I'm good.
isn't a low reputation indicator exactly what a troll would want?