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[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

My point is that neither of these methods work, because they require simultaneous support from large portions of the country. Canada is too complacent for that.

Even when it came to trying to prevent a Trump brown-noser from become Prime-Minister by putting an X on a peice of paper, we couldn't get 70% participation. Do you really think we can get even 10% of people to strike? Or like 50% of people to vote for small parties simultaneously?

Thats obviously not to say it isn't worth trying, but its absurd to expect results at this point. No one cares enough to force change.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You don't succeed the first time. That's why you adjust and try different methods.

No one cares enough to force change.

That's certainly not true as the canadians give the liberals a minority so they're forced to compromise with the smaller parties that's how we got universal heatlhcare.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

You're missing my point. Under FPTP, small parties are rapidly shrinking and losing power. Outside the two party system, only 30 seats are held currently (down from 59), and this will continue to shrink.

The only directly political way this will change is if BQ and NDP form an alliance to force election reform through. How likely do you really think that is, given their lack of action in the past?

Indirectly, you need en-masse, organized voting for small parties and or a massive, enconomy threatening strike. Neither is going to happen unless things get MUCH worse.

[–] jszym@cosocial.ca 2 points 1 day ago

@PlzGivHugs @Sunshine The distortions of FPTP greatly serve the Bloc, so it is doubtful they'd join in. E.g. in this election BQ and NDP received about 6% of the vote but got 22 and 7 seats, respectively.

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