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[–] Clairvoidance@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 days ago (16 children)

I empathize a bit, but it's not like democrats haven't been getting more leftward either.

The truth is though that ultimately, politicians are gonna be malleable to those who are going to vote, both because of the very simple "if I focus here, I will be more likely to get the most votes while providing due change", but also because the idea of democracy is based in the trust that publics will emerge to voice their concerns to the politicians.

Most politicians are just not online enough to gather the discourse that we would be experiencing, and also there's the whole issue of not knowing how much of it is foreign interference in a trench-suit pretending to be the voices of the locals. That's why direct calls to voicing these concerns to local politicians, and being willing to hear them out as much as they hear you out matters a lot. Some do forget over the years, but a lot join politics because they genuinely want to make life better.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The truth is though that ultimately, politicians are gonna be malleable to those who are going to vote

Literally not the truth; polls showed several times more voters wanted a ceasefire than who didn't and Kamala still decided to go with wholeheartedly supporting the genocide.

[–] Clairvoidance@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

~~My personal recollection is that while she defended Israel as a victim, she still said that she would work to stop what was happening in Gaza and specifically didn't want to provide further arms to Israel~~

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

she still said that she would work to stop what was happening in Gaza and specifically didn't want to provide further arms to Israel

The opposite is true.

[–] Clairvoidance@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago

🙌 fuck. that's my bad

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's amazing how libs retcon everything in their heads to invert the world and make themselves the good guys

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm at least glad this one was receptive and open to confronting evidence that contradicts years of moral licensing to bury their head in the sand and pretend we live in a good world.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

yeah, true enough they were willing to backtrack. 5 points granted

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

If your personal recollection is that Harris said she would stop providing arms to Israel, you need to get your memory checked. She never said anything of the sort; quite the opposite in fact.

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