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I think you should use your experiences in Azerbaijan as a push to confront some of your biases, and re-examine your understanding of Socialism in the Soviet Union. It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't "totalitarian" by any stretch either. The benefits of the Socialist economic structure are pined for precisely because they worked, and did so for the common people. There are improvements that can and have been made in other Socialist countries, but these improvements would not have been possible without the brave Soviet people pioneering Socialism as it exists in the real world.
Not totalitarian you say?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purges_of_the_Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
My experience in Azerbaijan also included tales of when they were children passing curds to starving prisoners through chain fences in Kazakh gulags. The Soviet Union did more harm than good to the leftist movement and is used as the scary example every single time someone begins to think twice about the capitalist system they live under. Socialism is forever tainted by the USSR and severely struggles to remove that image. Fuck the USSR.
The soviet union literally stopped nazi germany from doing a gargantuan genocide on eastern europe, it's quite literally the biggest leftist victory hitherto and even now these eastern european countries still live off the crumbling infrastructure built during the soviet union period.
Only idiots parrot this narrative that the USSR was unimaginably bad, please educate yourself and purge this comical perception of the USSR, it's only there to make you think there is no alternative.
Oh yes. All alone without help. And they didn't start the whole thing together with Nazi Germany in the first place. And everyone was living happily ever after. Everyone weeped after the Soviet Union collapsed because we now have to live under horribly oppressive systems....
They continued to commit horrible atrocities after the war ended. On their "own" population so who cares.
U.S. capitalism was far more useful to the Fascists than to the Soviet Union.
The Empire of Japan’s invasion of Manchuria in 1931 would be a better starting point, but other candidates include 1935, 1937, 1938, and 1941. There was significantly more fighting throughout the 1930s than the 1920s. An important reason (if not the most important) for WWII was the Great Depression. See the link for details.
Far more useful.... The soviet union was an ally of fascist nazi Germany.
The allies liberated western Europe and supplied loads of machinery to the soviet union. And thank god they did. And thank god they didn't stop further west.
No, the relations between Fascist Italy and the Third Reich were an alliance. The relations between the Slovak Republic and the Third Reich were an alliance. The German–Soviet Pact was 1.8 years of neutrality, which the Western Axis broke by launching the largest and deadliest invasion in all of history, yet for some reason antisocialists seem far more interested in the Pact than the invasion.
We can spend all day condemning the German–Soviet Pact to the lowest depths of Hell and overrate its importance to be greater than every other event in history combined. It won’t get us a damn bit closer to understanding the circumstances that made it a likely outcome. Because unlike you, I take tragedies seriously by thoroughly examining their causes as well as their effects. That is why I taught people about the Pact from the Fascist bourgeoisie’s point of view whereas generic antisocialists have bupkes to say about that subject.
So the secret clause was inevitable and necessary. The soviet union had to attack Poland together with Germany and had to do horrible atrocities while doing so? You don't take anything serious other than soviet apologism.
— A.J.P. Taylor, The Origins of the Second World War, pg. 262
— Michael Parenti, The Sword and the Dollar, pgs. 144–145
So you really argue that the secret clause never existed and all those lands they occupied were actually just occupied soviet/russian territory?
For proof you cite someone who is a milosevic apologist. If you want to go back in history with all your land claims. Russia is really Ukrainian. Russia should seize it's lands. What a puddle of shit.
The secret clause is a proven fact
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact#Discovery_of_the_secret_protocol
Oh. That is a good point. You really showed me how wrong I was. I wish that I were as smart as you.
You'll be shocked to learn that this German Anti-Communist is also a defender of Zionism and a denier of Palestinian genocide.
lol can't say i am surprised
Neither can I, seems more to me that they are lashing out because their preferred side lost World War II.
if its in wikipedia its a proven fact lmao.
its crazy that there are statements like this, when the invasion literally did happen.
Thanks.
Are you writing nazi fanfiction now?
aight 😂 i must've imagined the war then
Aight must've imagined Molotov Ribbentrop pact.
Now cite every single other pact signed with Nazi Germany. Or are you just gonna talk about the one the Soviets did to buy time to be able to beat the Nazis?
But hey only the Molotov Ribbentrop pact had a secret clause about the baltics and Poland. So that's the one they teach you about.
At least the soviet union is dead and Russia is a pariah. I hope you're at work. Anyways have fun in your fantasy world.
Usa had and has the full control over nazi germany they taught hitler and all the other nazis their evil but the burgerreich colonizers were and are far, far more evil and depraved than nazis could even think of
Let me put this clear, if countries go to war with each other, are they allies or enemies?
Let me get this straight. If two countries have a pact to occupy a third country and act on said pact to occupy that state together are they allies or enemies? This held until 1941.
you can try to isolate any point of time you want and ignore history but the matter of fact is that nazi germany invaded the soviet union and everyone and their mother knew it was going to happen since Hitler was not particularly shy when talking about his goals on the region or his views on the "judeobolsheviks". this nonsense that the soviet union wanted to "secretly join the axis" is ahistorical and frankly dumb.