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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Biden to Target Industrial Pollution in a 2nd Term, if He Gets One (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] echutaa@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like it’s probably not going to happen then if all the stars have to alight to get it.

[–] DrugsMcChrist@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

funny how real change is just on the horizon but always out of reach. almost as if it were by design

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US political system is designed to protect the prerogatives of the wealthy. It takes a sustained majority over time to overcome that. We've gotten to the point where there has been significant but not yet sufficient action:

The Washington Post has a much more complete list

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not so much about the stars all aligning, but needing to hold a majority of the centers of power for long enough. We've gone from being blown off to not having the votes to do anything at all to getting significant but not yet sufficient action. Getting to where we need to be is going to happen at some point, and it's on us to make it happen sooner rather than later.

[–] echutaa@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I envy your optimism, but this just sounds like an empty promise with a built in scapegoat. What makes you so sure this will happen?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago

I'm not. It takes electing more and better Democrats instead of lurching into fascism. We could well fail, but it's crazy to not try

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It is hypothetically more likely to occur when folks who want it to occur are employed/elected than when those people are specifically absent