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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Sorry sweaty but this truth is too inconvenient for libs of lemmy.ml. lemmygrad.ml & hexbear.net would be more receptive.

[–] batcheck@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I identify strongly as a Democrat. I have no ill feelings towards the Jewish community. I hate not calling a spade a spade here. I suspect there are some big Jewish donors on the democratic side. Also, we don’t want to lose access to the Israeli tech stack on the surveillance side. So if those are the reasons we are letting Israel essentially eradicate a group of people, then say that to the American people. Let the people decide if we are morally fine with that.

This conflict is complex. But Palestinians were painted into a corner and they truly waited a long time pleading their case to the West with how Israel has been handling them. We did nothing and now we are surprised they went to extremes to fight for their rights and lives.

No one has the moral high ground here. Hamas did something horrible. The response though is highly disproportional. I can’t come up with another scenario where we would be so accepting of this massacre. Native Americans in the US are still treated poorly. If they kidnapped and killed a bunch of none Native Americans that would not justify eradicating them. Then why are we fine with it when it comes to Israel and Gaza?

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Hamas only exists because of Israel. They are only radicalized because of the IDF.

The US did the same thing to the Native Americans and supported the South African apartheid regime, so it's no surprise they support colonialism and apartheid here.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a false narrative, and Norm Finkelstein just did a great interview explaining just how absurd it is to try and use both sides argument here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeO9jGxnbbs

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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah a lib who hasn't been scratched yet. Looking forward to further opinions.

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