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The French president, Emmanuel Macron, was on Saturday night seeking to convene an emergency meeting of European leaders, including the UK prime minister, Keir Starmer, as concerns grew over Donald Trump’s attempts to seize control of the Ukraine peace process.
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The meeting, likely to be held on Monday, is expected to discuss US efforts to exclude European leaders from the peace talks, the position Europe should adopt on Ukraine’s future membership of Nato and how Ukraine can be offered security guarantees, either through Nato or some European force.

Downing Street confirmed on Saturday it had heard about the proposed meeting and officials made clear that Starmer would attend and take messages from the meeting to Washington this week, when he will meet President Trump. UK sources said they believed those invited to Paris by Macron would be the Nato secretary general, Mark Rutte, and the leaders of Germany, Italy, the UK and Poland.

Starmer said: “This is a once-in-a-generation moment for our national security where we engage with the reality of the world today and the threat we face from Russia. It’s clear Europe must take a greater role in Nato as we work with the United States to secure Ukraine’s future and face down the threat we face from Russia. The UK will work to ensure we keep the US and Europe together. We cannot allow any divisions in the alliance to distract from the external enemies we face.”

Macron’s speed in trying to unite European leaders behind a joint response shows the extent of anxiety in Europe about US efforts both to control the process and exclude European governments from any detailed negotiations between the US and Russia.

The prospect of Starmer’s involvement also highlights how the UK prime minister is becoming drawn into a European response, despite the UK having left the EU. With European leaders expected to convene in Paris, it is anticipated that Russian and US officials will meet in Saudi Arabia this week to map out what they intend to be the peace process.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago (10 children)

North Korea deployed 10k troops in support of Russia... Can EU even muster 10k troops in any cohesive manner? Or is that going to take several meetings and 6 month of fake news propaganda?

If EU wants to be fucking treated like a global power, maybe they should start acting like one.

[–] solarpunkandrobots@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The EU isn't a global power, thats a major part of why this happened in the first place.

That its clearly in Europes interests to become a unified state that can do things like send its own large 1st rate army to defend its borders will be one of the major consequences of this war. It will light a fire under federation efforts.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

North Korea is a country of 30m people with economy the size of Bulgaria....

EU can't seem to get its act together.

[–] solarpunkandrobots@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with anything? Wars aren't won by the number of bodies on the front, they haven't been since ww2.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 5 days ago

It matters because Russia a strong country got allies to help it fight its war.

EU is a shit ally... But surely do love mocking Koreans 🤡

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