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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

They/them is grammatically correct for singular nouns, but maybe it’s best to just use neopronouns in the case of someone (like this lady who is opposed to using someone’s correct pronouns) being difficult. But I feel people who want to be difficult are going to be difficult for whatever reason, and it’s not about the pronouns or grammar at that point.

For reference https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

Edit why is my comment being read uncharitably by the downvoters? Its weird behavior, I don’t get why someone would do that lol

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think neopronouns would piss off those against the concept of non-binary or trans even more.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I like the idea of inventing new pronouns, but most of the suggestions so far (like "Xe") are too silly to be taken seriously. "They/them" can come off as impersonal at times, but we seem to be more or less settling on that, so whatever.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

I’m in the too silly to be taken seriously boat. They/them works perfectly fine.

[–] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

every new word sounds silly at first, that's why every generation makes fun of the kids' slang. hell, remember when "yeet" was new? it sounded so silly and stupid, but it's just another part of the lexicon now.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeet is still silly, and spread because it's silly. That's not what we want for replacement pronouns.

[–] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

my point still stands, the more a word is in use the less "silly" it sounds. if you shoot everything down as sounding "too silly" then nothing will ever rise to that bar and become "acceptable" enough to use. you're basically going "i think neopronouns are silly and we shouldn't use them" with extra steps.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

Neologims get added all the time. Being silly tends to help them spread, but it's not a requirement.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But it shouldn’t though? In a reasonable society, using neopronouns isn’t any different than using someone’s name. Yeah, I acknowledge that society isn’t reasonable some times.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Shouldn’t means nothing. People shouldn’t own other people and yet gestures broadly at history

Calling someone what they want to be called is just being decent. Like your name is Thomas but you’d like to be called Tommy. Neopronouns aren’t names, they’re an attempt to force speech to fit the unique desires of the person demanding use of said neopronouns. Using they/them is a perfectly reasonable compromise.

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