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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I'd rather work for the money I can negotiate than whatever some communist official says I need. I'd rather have real labor unions representing me than unions populated entirely by Party officials.

Capitalism isn't perfect. But capitalism with good social safety nets is a better economic system than anything else we have developed. "We have nothing to lose but our chains?" Sure, if you want some tyrant replacing fair work for fair pay with work at the barrel of a gun and labor under the eye of the secret police.

[–] Wurzelfurz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your description matches the current situation more than the system socialists imagine. Most of the people wishing for communism don't wish for what you describe. Those people usually wish for a system where the working class wields the power in a way Marx wrote about.

So many peoples view on communism is shaped by the same populist propaganda we had since the 40ies.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, but that wish for Marx's vision fails when it hits reality, where in reality, institution of communism or socialism essentially requires a totalitarian form of government

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