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Some progress, finally.

Edit: for the benefit of the tinfoil hat wearers, assisted dying is not the same as euthanasia.

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[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

You are being downvoted for telling the truth. People who think the state will use this to "help" those in need have no idea how politics work

[–] funnything@lemmings.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The issue isn't assisted dying, the issue is capitalists trying to destroy our healthcare system.

My grandma got an euthanasia. She took ten years to express her will and when her backpain took all her quality of life, she ended it. It was a moment of grace and with the perspective I wouldn't have wanted her to die any other way. She was 87, lived standing, stayed openminded and present until the end, died in dignity.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You look like an innocent person so i will explain the issue to you in good faith. Every bad thing that a gov has to do, they start by doing it in the name of the "good thing to do". So first they ban homophobic books, they euthanise the ones in need, they censor people who talk offensive things, etc. But this opens the door to ban books, to euthanise people, to censor what you say. The first step is always "in the name of the good". But politics is not a single moment, it keeps going on. Once the door is open, more or less anyone can go. Can you imagine when they start euthanising felons, for example? Do you think that if the prison wants to kill a felon, the felon will be able to argue that its actually a death sentence and they are not suffering & domt want to die? Just wait and you will see how this goes. And since its Kid Starver thars your PM now, i dont think this process will take long

[–] funnything@lemmings.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not an innocent person and I have done unspeakable things. But sure, I'm in good faith mate :)

The issue is the same with genetic therapy vs eugenism. Wanting a child to be born without disease isn't the same as a policy to eliminate genes.

I fully understand your defiance toward the state of course, we must be very careful not to I understand your concern, now let's be honest. If the state wants to kill you, it does, it doesn't embarrass itself with legality. And what's the alternative? Leaving people on respirators for years?

Kinda like abortion, or drugs, you cannot really outlaw consensual acts that happens between the doctor and the patient imho. Legalizing weed opens the door for mandatory weed, yes, but how realistic is that.

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