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I moved to NZ about 7 years ago and lived through this. I supported the earlier lockdowns and got the vaccine before it became mandated.
Having said that, the mandates that the government pursued were absolutely ruthless, and put in place at a time where efficacy was already reduced due to new variants. It did a lot of harm to society, and we still live with those consequences today.
You mean one of the lowest per capita death rates of any country with transparent reporting? Explain to me how saving tens of thousands of lives in New Zealand was bad without sounding like a dickhead...
From the report:
Yeah, misinformation from conspiracists and right wing politicians wore at the publics resolve and found a home the hearts of other reactionaries and conspiracists. That's the truth, but it's not a fault of thee covid response, it's a fault of people who view society as an enemy
BTW "submissive subhunans"?, go fuck yourself
JFC learn to read. My comment was about people who were spreading misinformation. If that wasn't you, hold your victim mentality
In another words, it hurt their poor little feelings
In Chapter 8, the report goes on to talk about how hurting their poor little feelings debased the authority of the government and the authors offer suggestions on how to do mandates better during the next pandemic.
This seems to assume there was a response by the center-left government that could both be pro-social and would not be attacked by conservative douchebags. They're not going to be impressed by a finely threaded needle, they'll just up their ask, because reducing the popularity of their opponents is the point of conservative propaganda, not the actual policy.
Precisely
The report is worth a read: https://www.covid19lessons.royalcommission.nz/reports-lessons-learned/main-report/
Chapter 8 is 81 pages long, if there's a point you think is particularly insightful in dealing with conservative grievance and propaganda, you'll need to be more specific.
Good job on trying, but it seems like there's little room for nuanced debate here because "antivaxer stupid"
I'm also assuming a lot of people here don't realise Auckland spent four months locked in their houses while they threatened to keep us there forever unless the entire fucking country had 90 percent vaccination rates... and they pursued the mandates even at those high vaccination rates. Against the MoH advice...
My wife is a therapist and she is still dealing with the fallout of those lockdowns.
Most places had some type of shelter in place orders for a period of time that was difficult for people to handle. I never thought your comment was anti-vax.
Here's the thing, it was a global pandemic, any decision a government made was only going to mitigate disaster, not prevent it entirely. Either a lot of people died or a lot of people had a really difficult time. I tend to think preventing deaths comes first. If your argument is NZ wasn't flawless in their handling of the pandemic response, sure, no one was. But they did a better job than almost any other country. Zero countries had a satisfied populous after the pandemic. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. You'll learn from it and hopefully do even better next time.
Here's some perspective, in the US we had more people die in the pandemic than any other single event in American history. More than WWII, more than the Spanish flu, more than the civil war, etc. The damage to our psyche from all that death, far exceeds 4 months in lockdowns and vaccine mandates. Over 1 million dead here, be grateful your country at least sought to keep you alive.
I am grateful for how NZ handled it. I'm mostly critiquing the very end of the pandemic when the government started going against ministry advice. I appreciate how lucky we were. I don't know anyone who died from covid.
Many Auckland houses have a section/yard, so residents could still get outside.
Why wasn't it closer to a 100% rate? Too many people listening to internet wack jobs or far right extremist who wanted to undermine the government.