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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In regards to actors, it's less their actions in a movie and how they carry themselves. Desdpool is actually a good example. Ask friends and family if they think Ryan Reynolds is a good person or not and why. For me the answer is simple, I have no idea mainly because I have never met him.

I agree with your comparison between Hasan and Destiny, although I'm not sure if Destiny has really figured out a repeatable process others could follow. Its been a few years since I listened to his content though, there might be a bunch of copycat Destiny's making content successfully. Keep in mind though even he has limitations, as evidenced by his political campaign in Nebraska.

I'm also concerned that the bully and shame technique will just cause defensiveness rather than a change in perspective. I'm essentially of the opposite perspective though, people need to be able to tolerate being around others with vastly different views without getting aggressive or defensive.

A somewhat absurd example of this is that I think that Israel and Palestine will only ever be peaceful if they accept living in the same country together under equal rights. A one country solution so to speak.

In regards to actors, it’s less their actions in a movie and how they carry themselves. Desdpool is actually a good example. Ask friends and family if they think Ryan Reynolds is a good person or not and why. For me the answer is simple, I have no idea mainly because I have never met him.

i suppose that makes sense. But that would be pretty weird. Especially when you consider how movies tend to be, either way i would assume that reynolds is probably a decent person, as i do for most people. Perhaps that's a bias in itself, but meh.

I agree with your comparison between Hasan and Destiny, although I’m not sure if Destiny has really figured out a repeatable process others could follow.

post election stream he has been working towards doing things to increase reach within the left/liberal sphere of things. So it sounds like he has some things in the works for that, will be interesting to see where it goes. Hasan naturally has been hating on destiny more frequently now, lol.

I’m also concerned that the bully and shame technique will just cause defensiveness rather than a change in perspective. I’m essentially of the opposite perspective though, people need to be able to tolerate being around others with vastly different views without getting aggressive or defensive.

maybe, but then the problem is the same one we have now with republicans. If you're good faith, and very tolerant, the republicans will abuse it to no end, until they get what the want, which is the problem we have now, so you have to be very careful, or fight fire with fire, because there isn't really a good solution to stopping all the incessant bullshit they spread constantly.

For me personally it depends on the person, and the topics, but there's a point where you've gone too far, and you're actually delusional, and you should be bullied for it. Or institutionalized, i guess, but that will never happen lmao.

A somewhat absurd example of this is that I think that Israel and Palestine will only ever be peaceful if they accept living in the same country together under equal rights. A one country solution so to speak.

yeah, that ones a hard problem, i honestly have no idea how it's going to be solved, a two country solution seems like the most simple and direct solution to me, with internationally recognized borders. A one state would be nice, but i feel like it's very theoretical, i don't know if either party would agree to that.