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The Thai government has called for the release of all remaining citizens being held in Gaza. So far at least 33 Thai nationals have been killed, according to figures shared by Thai authorities with CNN – with 18 Thai nationals still being held hostage as of October 26.

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[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (39 children)

Hamas could achieve a cease-fire right now by releasing the hostages. But then they would have to account for the ones they have already murdered.

[–] BraveLittleToaster@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Who is down voting this and why are you down voting it? Explain yourself

[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Troll farms or pro hamas tankies

[–] avater@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

stop caring for downvotes on this topic. this discussion has lost its objectivity a long time ago and the current meta is that israel is bad and should somehow bow to terrorism.

I don't know why though 😅

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did. There's no fucking way this all stops if Hamas just releases the hostages. This is a completely delusional statement.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Hamas releases every single hostage they have, they cannot prove they have no more hostages. So the situation would not change.

There is no de-escalation from the current positions, there is going to be an invasion, and Hamas is going to be destroyed, at least as it exist today.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, lets just assume for simplicity this is exactly what Hamas demands:

Cease-Fire agreement if we release the Hostages

Israel doesn't care, they already killed several hostages in the bombing runs. Hell the US probably had to tell them to hold back to give them more time for negotiations. They will not accept any agreement with Hamas, so the only thing Hamas would accomplish releasing the Hostages with no agreement would be an instant full invasion.

Moreover, the actual demands from Hamas are basically cease fire + release arrested hamas members in exchange for hostages. Surprisingly, I don't think they actually made one of those impossible demands like "cease the existence of Israel's government"

The reason Hamas is trickling out hostages is because unlike Israel, every other nation does care about the hostages, especially the international ones. Hamas knows this, and can use it as leverage to force Israel to either slow down, stop, or eventually negotiate some sort of agreement. The most important one obviously being the American hostages because the USA has direct military involvement and leverage over Israel.

Whether or not it works is a different story.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually I don’t see one downvote to the comment. But I am a Kbin user so it is always a bit different here.

Just one question: You are usually not able to see who favorited or reduced a comment/article on Lemmy? On kbin you get all those infos.

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