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[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope you're wrong, this is fucking terrifying.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That ball started rolling in 2014 when we did fucking NOTHING in response to Russia annexing Crimea. Seriously, I consider that one moment to be Obama’s most catastrophic foreign policy failure.

And this is now why Ukraine has openly said they’re considering a crash nuclear weapons program - which they can do, because they had a lot of former Soviet personnel that operated and maintained Soviet nukes back in the day, and a lot of very fucking motivated and intelligent citizens who would absolutely love it if they could make Russia fuck off from their territory for good.

Nukes are the absolute final word in maintaining sovereignty and territorial integrity. Ukraine would not be getting invaded now if they still had a few warheads stashed in a bunker being quietly maintained. But they signed the Budapest Memorandum, and gave them up in exchange for “security guarantees and assurances” which were ultimately thrown on the floor. Nobody will EVER make that deal again.

TL;DR: Nuclear proliferation is back with a vengeance, baby!

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

We're gonna fucking blow ourselves off the face of the earth, all because a few dudes just couldn't stop trying to obtain power. How disgusting.