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[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 21 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

It's a dig at people who don't want to switch to memory-safe languages like rust.

Now that's a stretch, it could be anything (no, it couldn't, although I think this may have application to some other pairs of languages)

[–] CanadaPlus 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Yeah, Rust is simply the big one right now. It could just as easily apply to people in the 1960's who didn't want to adopt structured programming, or a compiler at all.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I personally prefer the memory safety tools offered by D over Rust. D also doesn't come with const by default, and you can even opt out of the RAII stuff a certain graphics driver developer boasted about in the Linux developer mailings (RAII can be a bad for optimization).

[–] CanadaPlus 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like this has come up before, and D is not memory safe. It has some helper-type features, but at the end of the day it is still C-like.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not if you opt in it. You can even put @safe: in the beginning of your D source code, then you'll have a memory safe D (you have to opt out by using @trusted then @system).

[–] CanadaPlus 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Alright, I'll actually dive into the research again...

Oh, I see, D is garbage collected, so really it's more like Java or Python. Maybe that's what I'm remembering. Also, @safe code sounds like it's pretty limited - far more limited than non-unsafe Rust.

Basically, if a language had been Rust before Rust showed up, Rust would have been a non-event. They solved a problem that was legitimately open at the time.

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