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  • An Israel strike on a residential building in northern Gaza has killed at least 93 people, officials say.
  • The Gaza health ministry says healthcare system in north Gaza has collapsed
  • The director of the nearby Kamal Adwan Hospital said it was overwhelmed by the wave of wounded people from the strike.
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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

when do you think the Palestinians will give up and sue for peace?

or is this like afghanistan where the dead are martyrs and they’ll just keep throwing bodies at the problem until Israel gets bored and goes home?

[–] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hamas has participated in negotiations for a ceasefire since November 2023. The facts indicate the Israeli government doesn't actually want a ceasefire.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg742e3rexo

Qatar’s foreign minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani said Qatari mediators had "re-engaged" with Hamas since Sinwar's death, but there was “no clarity” over the groups current plans with regards to ceasefire talks.

looks like there’s “no clarity” on whether or not they find their own countrymen dying an issue

guess you’ll need to recheck your “facts”

[–] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

You asked:

when do you think the Palestinians will give up and sue for peace?

And I gave you an answer that they've been in ceasefire negotiations since November 2023. It's been on-and-off, sure, but your question was when would they sue for peace and the answer is that they have done already.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg742e3rexo

Qatar’s foreign minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani said Qatari mediators had “re-engaged” with Hamas since Sinwar’s death, but there was “no clarity” over the groups current plans with regards to ceasefire talks.

ABC News quotes a Hamas official here:

A senior Hamas official says the group has told Egyptian officials it was ready to stop fighting in Gaza if Israel committed to a ceasefire deal.

The official said on Thursday a Hamas delegation discussed "ideas and proposals" related to a Gaza truce with Egyptian officials in Cairo.

"Hamas has expressed readiness to stop the fighting, but Israel must commit to a ceasefire, withdraw from the Gaza Strip, allow the return of displaced people, agree to a serious prisoner exchange deal and allow the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza," the official said.

source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-25/ceasefire-talks-in-doha-hamas-israel-gaza/104515680

guess you’ll need to recheck your “facts”

Firstly: Rude.

Secondly: Do you think "the Israeli government doesn’t actually want a ceasefire" is an original observation of mine, or something?

“But we are committed to continuing the war after a pause, in order to complete the goal of eliminating Hamas. I’m not willing to give up on that.”

- Benjamin Netanyahu, June 2024

source: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-06-24/netanyahu-says-he-wont-agree-to-a-deal-that-ends-the-war-in-gaza-testing-the-latest-truce-proposal

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