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[–] the_radness@lemmy.world 106 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Engineering is a skilled trade. We need our own union like every other skilled labor group.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they are smart enough to put us at the very bottom of the management ladder, even though we're not actually management. That way we can't legally unionize. In the U.S. at least.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That way we can’t legally unionize. In the U.S. at least.

This must vary state-by-state, or have exceptions, because I could name examples of them (but I would rather not dox myself).

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not every company, but that is what mine did. We're "management" but we don't manage anyone.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Classifying employees as management without having actual management duties is a violation of federal labor law. You might be owed back wages/overtime. Could be worth looking into. A class action lawsuit against a previous employer I had led to hundreds of employees getting checks for thousands of dollars, even after lawyers took their fee.

Some technical jobs can be legally classified exempt from overtime. That is different than being classified as management.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago

They just give us the PM title and call it a day. No court is going to take that seriously and allow a massive lawsuit.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Given how "business-friendly" the US has become, I imagine there are all sorts of loopholes that only work in favor of the corporation.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There doesn't need to be loopholes anymore. The SC will just blatantly rule in favor of companies.

In case anyone has missed it, they're done with loopholes, done with being sly and coy. They are saying the quiet parts, they are marching proudly, they are confident and unafraid. We need to make them afraid again.

The right wing and its corporate masters are done hiding in shadow. Loopholes and subterfuge are for chumps when you can just change the rules without consequence.

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