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Georgia’s Republican governor praised Democratic President Joe Biden for reaching out to him in the wake of Hurricane Helene’s deadly devastation as the state and surrounding areas scramble to recover from the disaster.

Former President Donald Trump told a different story when he landed there to survey the damage.

“The governor’s doing a very good job. He’s having a hard time getting the president on the phone,” Trump told reporters. “The federal government is not being responsive.”

It wasn’t true.

Here’s what Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp had to say about Biden and the feds:

The president just called me yesterday afternoon. I missed him and called him right back and he just said, ‘Hey, what do you need?’ And I told him, ‘We got what we need. We’ll work through the federal process. He offered that if there’s other things we need just to call him directly, which I appreciate that,” Kemp said.

“We’ve had FEMA embedded with us since a day or two before the storm hit in our state operating center in Atlanta. We’ve got a great relationship with them,” he said.


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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've been through quite a number of natural disasters in my life. Flash floods, tornados, and more hurricanes than I can count. I think you can depend on a range of emotions if you're the victim of such events.

First, disbelief. Mother nature is all powerful and just awesome. Go outside after the storm and you'll see some shocking things sometimes. Things you just can't believe can happen. Second, hopelessness. You wonder what will happen now that you've lost everything. It's very depressing. Hard to understand why you're a victim and this leads to anger at times. Lastly, there's the "carry on" when you just go forward because what choice is there?

I say this as a lens into the on the ground reporting that's done. Sure, when they put a microphone in front of a victim you should take it with a grain of salt, but really theses emotions are underlying.

Also have worked a number of recoveries. That is long and tiring work, but actually you get payback constantly by knowing you're helping people.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What's the point of this post? Your third paragraph, with the "grain of salt" statement, in context, makes it sound like you think the governor may be lying about the president calling him. Is this accurate?

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Sounds like some ai bot shit

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Point is that you'll see various statements from victims regarding recovery, but they shouldn't be given the level of truth that most would afford them. Trump lied, of that there is no doubt. It's a given.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But what does this have to do within the context of what the article is talking about? Again, it sounds like you are dancing around, but still kind of implying, that the government of Georgia might not be telling the truth when it comes to what Biden has done.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know that you want to read some implications between the lines, but there are none.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Im reading your post in the context of the article. The only one who they got a comment from that could be considered a victim is Kemp, and you said they should be taken "with a grain of salt." It now appears your post had nothing to do with the article, but just disasters in general.

It has nothing to do with me wanting anything, but you talking about some kind of unrelated and that causing confusion.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can see you have strong feelings on the matter, if nothing else from your continuing response. Are you sure you don't want something? Perhaps if I remove it and promise to never do whatever again you'll feel better.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

How strong my feelings are about the topic have nothing to do with the point. It's interesting, however, that you are trying to make this about me rather than the point. That just tells me you realize I've made a good point, but don't want to admit it.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I do realize this is a rather dreary conversation and I'd rather it be concluded, so if there is nothing more...

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know you could have just left when you originally abandoned the point. But I can see you have strong feelings on the matter, if nothing else from your continuing response.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've abandoned nothing except boredom. Surely, you can bother someone else.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Life advice: when I find something boring I stop doing it and find something else to do. I don't continue to do it while announcing to the world how bored I am of it.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's great, how nice for you.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I appreciate it. You might even be able to learn from the nice things I do for myself.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I doubt it. I wouldn't take advice from others of your ilk. I find them too pretentious and unschooled.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's little more pretentious than believing that simply because a person doesn't have some arbitrary amount of training, that they don't possess useful knowledge that you can learn from them.

As you continually make more and more clear, your strong suit seems to be projection.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You seem to confuse me with someone who cares what you think. I can assure you, I've joined the what must be the large group of people that really don't

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You sure do spend a lot of time trying to make me feel bad, for someone who supposedly doesn't care what I think.

In fact, by your own metric, the amount of times you've responded reveals strong feelings on the matter. Or do you not realize that that was an obvious projection?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So now you complain that I respond to you? If you don't want a response why not stop? I'll tell you why. Because, in your world if you have the last say you win! A ridiculous notion but there you are. You now are angry that I don't Play your game. So sorry. And also sorry you feel "bad", but after all you did it to yourself.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So now you complain that I respond to you?

No, not at all. I'm quite enjoying this. It's very entertaining watching your flail around.

Because, in your world if you have the last say you win! A ridiculous notion but there you are.

You've, multiple times, tried to get me to stop posting, when all you've had to do was stop responding to me; this is your most obvious projection yet.

And also sorry you feel “bad”,

You've intentionally and directly insulted me numerous times. It's obvious you want me to feel bad. Why pretend it's not your goal?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh again you go into the barrel. This is taking boring to a new level. Let's see..

First we start with the classic "No, you stop" .. Old and never in the top 40. My simplest response, you first. Obviously you enjoy this stupidity, so it could go on for days

I didn't insult you. I told the truth and you took it as an insult. I don't want you to feel bad. I could care less how you feel. You are just an anonymous entity on a chat board.

Guess that's it for now

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

First we start with the classic “No, you stop”

No, please don't stop. It's hilarious how long you've gone while at the same time repeatedly stating how boring it. lol Who does that? Eventually I'll bore of watching this desperate attempt to win by getting the last word in, and then I'll just leave. This is how people who don't have to get the last word in act. But for now it's some good entertainment throughout the day.

Obviously you enjoy this stupidity, so it could go on for days

Well, you don't enjoy it, as you've repeatedly called it boring, and yet you seemingly can't just walk away. It's like you want to make it extremely obvious that your "you have to get the last word in!" is just a massive projection.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So now you are projecting. Pot meet kettle.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

is this the part where you both spend an hour going through each other's entire comment history and down vote every single thing?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That sounds like something I don't care about as well.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I have votes turned off. Have they actually been downvoting me?

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The grain of salt but was directly tied to interviewing citizens affected by the disaster, saying they’re probably emotional and not fully present when interviewed.

It was not tied to Kemp, the gov’t, or any of that.

It’s about the majority of victims affected.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The grain of salt but was directly tied to interviewing citizens affected by the disaster

Except the only one that was interviewed who could be considered a victim is Kemp. Which is where the confusion came from. If you are saying that victims statements should be taken with a grain of salt, and in the context there is one victim, then it sounds like you are showing some doubt about what they are saying.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dude how hard is it to get that this guy wasn't directly commenting on the article

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not. I get it now. I'm just pointing out that the confusion was the result of their unrelated comment, rather than their accusation that I "want" it to imply something. I'm explaining what caused the confusion.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Valid, but you're not doing it very clearly. This whole thread is a mess tbh