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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 83 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (18 children)

In my experience it’s been IT people telling me you can’t use a certain tool or have more control over your computer cause of their rules.

The expression is appropriate but the meme assumes that im doubting the IT person’s expertise. I’m not, I’m just not liking the rules that get in the way of my work. Some rules do make sense though.

Edit: just wanted to point out, yes I agree, you need the rules, they are still annoying tho.

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I think you probably don't realise you hate standards and certifications. No IT person wants yet another system generating more calls and complexity. but here is iso, or a cyber insurance policy, or NIST, or acsc asking minimums with checklists and a cyber review answering them with controls.

Crazy that there's so little understanding about why it's there, that you just think it's the "IT guy" wanting those.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you don't trust me, but you trust McAfee to give it full control over the system. Yet my software doesn't work because something is blocked and nothing is showing up in the logs. But when we take off Mafee, it works. So clearly McAfee is not logging everything. And you trust Mcafee but not me? /s kinda.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No one on earth trusts McAfee, be it the abysmal man or abysmal AV suite.

If the EDR or AV software is causing issues with your code running, it's possibly an issue with the suite, but it's more likely an issue with your code not following common sense security requirements like code signing.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you don't code sign during development....

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not common, but it should be.

Still, that was just one example. EDR reacting to your code is likely a sign of some other shortcut being taken during the development process. It might even be a reasonable one, but if so it needs to be discussed and accounted for with the IT security team.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

You’re talking about during CI. Not during the actual coding process. You’re not signing code while you’re debugging.

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