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[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 113 points 3 weeks ago (25 children)

Eh, plenty of people voiced issues with the racial (and gender) recast of the Ancient One when Doctor Strange came out.

Tilda Swinton is great btw.

[–] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think that this is making fun of the people who were upset at Ariel being black in the remake. The people this is making fun of don't care about recasting race until it's done from a white character to a black one. It's pointing out hypocrisy.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

True, but it is not done in a very genuine way. Each role had people complaining about the changes, the only real difference is the few times a white character is casted black the movie ends up being bad anyways.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

only real difference is the few times a white character is casted black the movie ends up being bad anyways.

Shawshank Redemption. In the source novel, Morgan Freeman' character was a white irish guy. The reasons nobody complained were probably that a. there was no Xitter when the movie hit theaters and b. nobody knows it's an adaptation anyway.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Same with Samuel L. Jackson playing Nick Fury or whatever The Boys is doing with characters. When the adaptation is good no one really cares.

I have a feeling Hollywood companies intentionally do this to stir discourse and interest in the film when they know the script is weak. You never hear about these things when the movie is good, only when it’s the Ghostbusters reboot or The Little Mermaid.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Ultimate Nick Fury came first and was openly based on SLJ, so people actually liked it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll say that when people notice the white character is recasted as black, it generally means the source material was absurdly popular and any follow up is likely to be pretty meh. The live action disney adaptations. of their biggest animated properties have been generally bad.

Rinse and repeat for almost any reboot/remake of some iconic movie or show. The chances of getting it at least as right the second time around are slim. Even slimmer than bolted on sequels that generally do poorly even with the benefit of the original creative teams at the helm.

They could have preserved the race of every character and it still would have sucked.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re probably correct, however I believe Disney and everyone else knows this and are choosing to cast black actors in order to claim the movie failed due to racism and not a weak script.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm fully onboard with the "mean people are offended" smokescreen when they produce bad product that also is very visibly "progressive". It also works because a lot of people do fixate on that when it's the least of the problems in a reboot/remake.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wasn’t it not just the casting of one character, but that they recast the movie to be all black? When I see something that looks like “recast the movie to be X”, I don’t expect very much and usually don’t bother watching. If this was one my favorite movies, I can see being upset that they would remake it just for race or gender (although now that I mention that, it could be hilarious to remake for gender)

That includes “recast the movie to be white”, now that we’re getting lots of well done videos that don’t start as white.

But I suppose it’s white privilege that I never saw an issue with most of these (but wtf, Johnny Depp?). They’re close enough and generally the character is not written overly specific anyway. Ms Marvel must be correct because the entire movie was based on her culture, ethnicity, history. If the movie was written about “generic American teenager” declared to be something other than white, would we care? Should we? Meanwhile, who cares about Scarlet Witch? Aside from”European”, there was nothing in the movie to make her anything specific. From the post about the comics, the source material is horribly muddled

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