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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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How can we make Linux more appealing as "just works"? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 months ago by Psyhackological@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Let's say just like for example like MacOS. It's awesome we have so many tools but at the same time lack of some kind of standardization can seem like nothing works and you get overwhelmed. I'm asking for people that want to support Linux or not so tech-savy people.

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[–] iopq@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But that's several pages of point and click vs. a few lines to copy and paste,

[–] ian@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Copy pasting strange commands people will not memorise does not solve it! To keep non IT people on Linux, they need to find out how their desktop GUI works, so they are in control and happy to stay. The aim is not to use the minimum possible time writing the tips. Thrusting an unfamiliar environment on people is sure to scare them away, and is bad usability.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Thrusting in an unfamiliar environment is how I got an STD

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do not copy and paste into Bash if you don't understand the commands you're pasting in

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Who said I don't understand them? I've done point and click tutorials. They don't only take forever to follow, they also take forever to make.

Look at this monstrosity:

https://iopq.wordpress.com/2023/12/02/free-censorship-resistant-vpn-when-you-self-host-with-oracle-free-tier-and-cloudflare/

Holy shit, the copy and paste parts are the easiest parts of them all

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Fair; that was mostly a general warning, not necessarily directed at you, because many people do copypaste terminal commands without knowing what they are actually doing.

As long as you understand what a command does, absolutely go for it. No point typing that shit out when somebody else already has

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly maybe we need something like a portable guided tour format (you the "see what's new in ..." things but from strangers for specific thing).

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's an interesting idea, but the problem with UIs is you need some kind of a format to interact with all of the toolkits and legacy programs just to be able to figure out where on the screen the button you need to click is

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Right. I feel like maybe Free Desktop standard, tight integration with top toolkits (qt, gtk, etc) and a some image recognition for fall back.