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[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If the product is as unethical as mass ip theft and replacement of workers with ethics or comprehension skills, then I get the feeling expectations aren't the major issue.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are many ML/AI models that are doing a lot more good than harm. The shitty mass market chat bots and art generators are mostly hype and greed.

But Mathematics, physics, healthcare, and many other industries have embraced models that accomplish amazing things humans with similar resources just could not.

It's a problem of application.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, and I thank you for the clarification, but the AI in this context seemed pretty clearly the mainstream LLM products.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Entirely fair.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

mass ip theft

That's not a thing, both because "IP" is dishonest loaded language and because copyright infringement is different from theft.

I 1000% agree that what they've done is completely unethical -- particularly because including copyleft works in the training data ought to require every single output to be copyleft -- but I do not concede to your framing.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Copyright*

They're using the works of others for commercial gain without permission. There is no world where that isn't a clear violation.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago