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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 156 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (21 children)

Paid apps: no problem. If it's good, I'll pay.

Subscription: maybe, if it's worth it.

Ads: F-Droid can fuck right off. If they do that, they'd be a miserable bunch of sellouts.

[–] sovietknuckles@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

If they were talking about Privacy-Preserving Attribution like Firefox is experimenting with supporting on MDN, that would be one thing, but it doesn't sound like that's what F-Droid is talking about.

Not only are privacy and data protection founding principles for both Mobifree and F-Droid, the use of tracking-based in-app advertising poses a moral dilemma as well. If someone wants to gain access to an app, but does not have the financial means to purchase it, they can use it at a different kind of price - their user data.

F-Droid is also considering ads that contain no tracking, which removes that moral dillema, IMO:

It should be mentioned that it is possible to include in-app advertising without user tracking. However the lead conversion ratio drops dramatically, so the efficacy of this approach is not nearly as high.

That's basically what PPA is, advertising without tracking. If advertisers want to pay for it, then great.

Edit: Downvoting without responding like lemmitor

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Because ads in Firefox went so well...

[–] sovietknuckles@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

ads in Firefox

That's a common misconception. For users like myself who use uBlock Origin, Firefox supporting PPA changes nothing at all (as pointed out by the Firefox CTO). The only users who would see an ad that uses PPA are users who would otherwise see ads that use tracking.

That is why the EFF supports it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That is just dancing around the issue. The problem is them turning on baked in browser advertising by default.

[–] sovietknuckles@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Again, it's not advertising, it's a form of privacy protection. There are no ads in Firefox, and they did not add any mechanism for tracking users, so calling it browser advertising is advertising your own technology illiteracy.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago

How does it benefit me in the least?

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

No, weeks later you still have fuck all clue about the thing but keep raging about it. 🀦

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