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I really don't understand why so many people like Signal. It's an utter piece of shit in terms of UX, has questionable security practices, harvests phone numbers, and it's located on a central server in US.

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[–] Bisexual_Cookie@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (5 children)

matrix? but that is more of a discord or telegram alternative, session and tox also look interesting for chatting

[–] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Matrix (as a protocol) appears to be very strong end-to-end encryption and is federated/decentralized. It can do encrypted and unencrypted chats for any number of users, so it can replace discord (which is not at all private or secure) and do private 1:1 communications (which I'd say is the best use case for it). It also does not require a phone number like signal does (which is usually tied to your legal identity and can be used for geolocation).

I wouldn't trust any electron apps, which is the framework the official Matrix client, Element, is built on. It's fully open-source so there are other clients out there which may be better. Of course, the biggest weakness is probably going to be the OS/firmware of device you run it on.

Edit: The desktop element clients rely on electron (which is a webapp framework built on google chrome, which is spyware). If you're on android, the app also renders in chrome (which is spyware), but that matters a bit less because android itself is a massive pile of spyware. iOS is also spyware that openly just copies all your files to a server in the US where they are "scanned for very bad things", retained indefinitely and may be accessed by your favourite state agencies without warrant.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

On android, element, and it's newer version element X, are native android, not electron at least.

[–] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Thanks, I should have been more specific.

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