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[–] OpenStars@discuss.online -3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I'm so close to blocking this community. Its Rule #5 states:

Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.

Instead, it's basically a leftist version of a right-wing echo chamber where if you don't support your candidate hard enough then you get downvoted into oblivion. Which is meh personally, but on the wider scale also shuts down interesting conversations that could result, if people felt more free to actually articulate their positions, using coherent logical formulations mind you. And even that is fine I suppose, if that's what this community wants to be, then it is on me to seek out what I want elsewhere.

I may not agree with someone, but I will defend to the death their right to speak.

Anyway, sorry OP that your The Atlantic article - a liberal media source if I ever heard of one - is getting downvoted to oblivion in spite of the rules of this community specifically asking for the opposite behavior. Fwiw I cross posted it to another news community in case that helps.

[–] 555_2@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Right after posting this comment you commented that someone couldn’t say “horse shit”

What was that about defending the right to speak?

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It’s just dumbfucks unable to accept reality for what it is. Same as it ever was. FWIW, I don’t think Biden should step down, and I’ll vote for whoever the D is, no matter what. But I also think Biden should fuck off into the sunset and endorse someone else.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online -5 points 4 months ago

I am not sure that I agree, but you clearly articulated your point so I am upvoting nonetheless:-).

For myself, it depends on the facts, which I am not in full possession of. Everyone has bad days imho - that's not "news" at all - but more important is what that performance indicates about his current state. And more importantly, the state he would be in 4 years from now.

This puts the nail in coffin, so to speak, on the idea that he would even live through his Presidency, much less remain salient throughout. A vote for him is a vote for Harris, as the article suggests, and talks about how acknowledging that reality might help pick up more independent voters that could turn the tide of the election.

Oh well, it's not like it is up to any of us.

[–] die444die@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it could just be that people don’t like you and that’s why they’re downvoting you. You do come off a bit rude.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 0 points 4 months ago

Oh yes, I earned these particular downvotes, to be sure.:-) But I was talking about OP.

It does make it hard to have intelligent discussions on Lemmy when we cannot handle anything other than strict agreement to whatever the crowd-think happens to fall upon that day.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Dont confuse shitlibs with leftists we are not the same thing.

[–] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Democrats would rather go after The Atlantic, one of the most pro-Democrat media institutions in the country, rather than contemplate replacing Biden.

This won’t end well.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online -1 points 4 months ago

People kept telling me that Trump will win and I kept fighting it, but it seems that you cannot escape facts: conservatives pull together, when it counts, whereas liberals eat their own.