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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (19 children)

You justified the voter abstention in 2016 by stating that Hillary was the worst candidate that ever drew breath.

No, I said it's why she lost.

Clinton supporters in '08 threw a bigger tantrum than you accuse Sanders supporters of throwing in '16.

At the end of the day, it’s a simple numbers game. If Democrats show up, a Democrat is elected.

And Clinton was shit at getting people to the polls. Turns out, "fuck you, shut up, you're voting for me" is a shit message. And before you accuse me of being a child who needs to be coddled to vote or whatever thing I can mark on my "centrist thought-terminating cliche" bingo card, I voted for her. Civic duty and all that. Unlike centrists, I can still recognize that you need to have a message and a candidate that gets people to the polls, and it's clear she didn't and wasn't.

Democrats love the old saw about Republicans falling in line but Democrats falling in love, but they still give us candidates no one loves and order us to fall in line. And then blame everyone but themselves for ignoring the political reality because they felt entitled to everyone's votes, regardless of how they acted.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (18 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (17 children)

Believe whatever lie you want. Under all your self-deceit, you know that a better candidate would have beaten Trump.

[–] HappyStarDiaz@real.lemmy.fan 2 points 3 months ago

Yep, stone cold fact

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