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Microsoft really wants Local accounts gone after it erases its guide on how to create them (www.xda-developers.com)

submitted 5 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Microsoft removes guide on converting Microsoft accounts to Local, pushing for Microsoft sign-ins.

Instructions once available, now missing - likely due to company's preference for Microsoft accounts.

People may resist switching to Microsoft accounts for privacy reasons, despite company's stance.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think something needs to be identical to Windows to be a good replacement for it.

I said drop in replacement

Wider application support would be a start.

No organization is willing to pay companies to support Linux

Some distributions and parts of modern Linux systems can be unnecessarily complex or downright esoteric. Some features like HDR have very poor support, and are difficult to enable/setup where they are supported.

That's because organizations like the Linux foundation primarily serve enterprise and server customers, they only need a good enough UI so that's what desktop users get. Nobody is paying money for Linux and few people donate.

It's also difficult for developers to publish to Linux because of the wide variety of different Linux systems. Flatpaks and snaps help with this obviously but have divisive in the Linux community for one reason or another.

That's because the current system allows distribution maintainers to decide if they want their distro to be bleeding edge or stable.

TLDR: Desktop Linux users get the scraps of enterprise and server Linux

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No organization is willing to pay companies to support Linux

Well that's a lie. Lots of companies use Linux servers, Linux embedded devices, even Linux desktops for programmers or engineers. Android devices are everywhere too.

That's because organizations like the Linux foundation primarily serve enterprise and server customers, they only need a good enough UI so that's what desktop users get. Nobody is paying money for Linux and few people donate.

One of the most common uses of Linux is smartphones. Chromebooks are also fairly popular. It's more that the kind of people that use Linux desktops aren't happy with smartphone like functionality and customisation.

The better question is why aren't people supporting desktop Linux? We have increasing market share after all. My guess is a combination of fragmentation and the fact that the user base aren't the kind of people they want to sell too. It's hard to sell MS Office for Linux to your average Linux enthusiast who might even be an Open Source purist. They are also more likely to jailbreak or pirate your product.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well that's a lie. Lots of companies use Linux servers, Linux embedded devices

I mentioned that

even Linux desktops for programmers or engineers. Android devices are everywhere too. One of the most common uses of Linux is smartphones.

They make money because they're proprietary, sell peoples info, and because of that they represent everything the free software movement fights against. I use Linux because it supports the free software movement, not the other way around.

The better question is why aren't people supporting desktop Linux?

It's a combination of a few factors, developers are pressured into not asking for donations (users need to actively find their website to donate), the vast majority of Linux software is free of price, and people don't want to pay money for their operating system.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a combination of a few factors, developers are pressured into not asking for donations (users need to actively find their website to donate), the vast majority of Linux software is free of price, and people don't want to pay money for their operating system.

I am talking about businesses supporting the Linux desktop with software, not about the OS devs themselves.

They make money because they're proprietary, sell peoples info, and because of that they represent everything the free software movement fights against. I use Linux because it supports the free software movement, not the other way around.

This is the reason why most businesses don't want to support Linux.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am talking about businesses supporting the Linux desktop with software, not about the OS devs themselves.

What money is there in desktop Linux? Companies don't support things without expecting something in return.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Given there are quite a lot more people using Linux than there used to be I imagine a fair bit. That's only going to increase as Linux users keep increasing. Linux users still buy things like Video Games, Spotify subscriptions, and potentially other software products too like Jetbrains IDEs.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fundamentally that doesn't make any sense, unlike Apple or Google Linux can't charge a percentage for subscriptions. Right now companies are getting away with not contributing any money to Linux, why would they magically start? Furthermore who would they pay? Not everyone uses flatpaks and adding paid apps/subscriptions would be highly controversial. Even if it did work the money made would be a tiny fraction of what android makes.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have been talking about application support this whole time, not the Linux infrastructure itself. You keep carrying on as if I am talking about the distributions or the kernel, that's why my comments aren't making sense to you.

For someone who uses Linux you are awfully negative about it.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

I just hate the very concept of Linux being monetized. I don't think it'll happen and I don't want it to happen.