this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2024
400 points (98.8% liked)

News

23367 readers
3026 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The borders of a country do not change due to occupation. Palestine is not a country. It is a nation-state. The UN recognizes Palestine as a self-determined people. Palestine is where the Palestinians are.

The Palestinian Territories are the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. They are not called the country of Palestine. If they leave the West Bank, it will still be the West Bank, it just won’t be Palestinian territory anymore.

Of course I’m not on Netanyahu’s side. I’m saying this is a large part of the problem. It’s one of the main components in Israel’s ability to drive out Palestinians and expand.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cool. We're not talking about a country or a nation-state, we are talking about a location.

A location that has been called Palestine continuously for thousands of years. It is a location that has multiple names which are still used today including the Levant, Judea, Israel and Palestine.

So, again, why would the name of that location change no matter who lived there?

So far, the answer seems to be "because that's what Netanyahu wants" and, again, why do you care what he wants?

I'll give you one last chance to answer both of those questions since I've asked both of them more than once, the first one multiple times, and then I'll give up. I think you realize you're just doing Netanyahu's PR work for him and you've dug yourself into a hole.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You’re being dismissive and accusational. I’m not defending the lack of recognized Palestinian borders. Just the opposite. For a platform full of pro-Palestinian people, I’m very disappointed in the ignorance I’m encountering. Their lack of recognized borders is a massive factor in this conflict, and I’m surprised it’s not only virtually unknown, but is considered scandalous to even point out. No matter how many nations recognize Palestine as a nation, they won’t have their own borders until they are recognized as a country.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

"You see, Ukraine is not a location because if the Russians kick out the Ukrainians and then rename it, it's no longer called Ukraine. Because... the Russians currently don't recognize Ukraine and that that means it doesn't exist right now!"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That sure seems to be the argument. And now they have the gall to ask me what question they left unanswered. Amazing. I think I'll let them try to figure that one out on their own.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I answered the above question earlier.

https://lemmy.world/comment/10727762

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't think you would ever answer my questions.

I can't bear people who just stubbornly refuse to even acknowledge they were asked questions they won't answer. Just be honest and say you won't answer the question and save everyone some time.

This conversation is over.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I’m honestly not trying to upset you. I’m sorry if I did.

I’m trying to be clear about the legality of the problem. What is the question that I left unanswered?