Not as much in the US but there are people around the world (global south, etc) who will take stuff like this at face value and hate queer people because they associate us with the US military.

Jesus fucking Christ, imagine believing this.

Imagine being THIS into apologia for homophobia.

And then pretending like you never said this, lol.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Multiple stealth edits lol.

See if you can spot the differences:

there are people around the world who will take stuff like this at face value and hate queer people because they associate us with the US military.

long-standing homophobia in other countries is caused by the US military becoming relatively queer-friendly 10 years ago

Can't read?

"There are people" does not mean "this is the sole source of homophobia," it means, "there are people." It is obviously true that some people believe that, it's just an objective fact about the world. There can still be long-standing homophobia and one of the ways in manifests and gets more people on board is what I mentioned, almost as if it's a complex issue with multiple contributing factors.

Also, the US can be tolerant or intolerant in reality, but that doesn't always conform to people's perceptions.

I understand that you're coming into this with a bone to pick with me, looking for any way to twist my words around. But maybe you, uh, shouldn't do that.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it's very stupid. Lots of reactionaries will talk about the concept of queer people being "imported" from Western culture, while at the same time importing their own talking points from the Western far-right media sphere. Obviously, there's plenty of queer history to be found all around the world, and in many cases homophobia was historically imported through Christian colonizers, but reactionaries aren't exactly known for their historical literacy.

Imagine being THIS into apologia for homophobia.

Wait, now I'm confused. Did I misinterpret your comment as interpreting my comment correctly?

Are you saying "imagine believing this" in response to people being homophobic, or in response to me acknowledging that homophobic people exist?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Imagine believing that long-standing homophobia in other countries is caused by the US military becoming relatively queer-friendly 10 years ago"

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Ok I'm imagining it. Seems like a really dumb thing to believe. Not sure what that has to do with anything I said tho.