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I'd like to start a series seeking viewpoints from across the political spectrum in general discussions about modern society and where everyone stands on what is not working, what is working, and where we see things going in the future.

Please answer in good-faith and if you don't consider yourself conservative or "to the right", please reserve top-level discussion for those folks so it reaches the "right" folks haha.

Please don't downvote respectful content that is merely contrary to your political sensibillities, lets have actual discourse and learn more about each other and our respective viewpoints.

Will be doing other sides soon but lets start with this and see where it takes us.

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[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thank you for the calmer reply, I've upvoted you, and appreciate your response. I'm 100% with you on improving access to education, and the issues women and minorities face in university courses. My end goal is the same as yours, I want to see equality in the workplace and elsewhere, I'm just trying to address what I think are legitimate concerns that the previous commentator raised.

I get that senior hiring is a thing, the problem is that as you've mentioned, historical discrimination has made it very difficult for women and minorities to get the appropriate credentials and skills required to adequately perform in senior roles. Not saying they're incapable, of course not, just that this is an issue we're still suffering from.

My worry is that this historical discrimination will force companies to over hire women and minorities in starting roles, and be unable to hire women in senior roles, if we pursue short term demographic equality. This leaves young men, particularly poor young men, at a disadvantage, and does nothing to fix the historical oppression women have suffered from.

I chose law in particular, because it's fairly even in graduates today, even in women's favour, and there's way more graduates than jobs, which means that if we wanted immediate demographic equality the industry as a whole could experience the same issue as the hypothetical company above, but obviously not as dramatic. Which is why I take issue with the short term goal being equal demographics. The short term goal should be equal hiring, with the long term goal being equal demographics as the older generations filter out.

In many metro areas young women already earn more than young men.

It's not fair that women and minorities have been held back, but I'm worried that going too hard too fast is going to cause more long term problems