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Estonia considers itself a front-line state, a Nato member where its border guards stare across the Narva River at the Russian fortress of Ivangorod. 

This tiny Baltic state, once a part of the Soviet Union, is convinced that once the fighting stops in Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin will turn his attention to the Baltics, looking to bring countries like Estonia back under Moscow’s control.

To help stave off that possibility, Estonia’s government has poured money and weapons into Ukraine’s war effort, donating more than 1% of its GDP to Kyiv.

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[–] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago (9 children)

I would think Russia's next target will be Georgia. The invasion there is only frozen for the moment, but with the pro-Russian government there it only needs some more Russian style laws like those anti-LGBTQ or foreign-agents one, plus massive protests in the young city population and Russia will "come to help the government".

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In modern wars, the invasion isn't actually the hard part. It's the occupation that's the hard part. And Russia is having a really difficult time trying to accomplish the easy part (the invasion).

The only way Russia can go after Georgia (or anywhere else) would be if they withdrew from Ukraine immediately. Taking territory from Ukraine means more land they have to deal with a resistance campaign. Occupying any country takes a large amount of manpower, and Ukraine is a very large country and will likely be dedicated to resist a Russian occupation for at least a decade.

By most estimates, Russia simply doesn't have the manpower to successfully occupy Ukraine. Even if Russia can take all of the territory (which I doubt) they'd bogged down for at least a decade, with the most likely outcome being a withdrawal and collapse of of the Russian Federation similar to how the Soviet campaign ended in Afghanistan.

[–] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your words, setting this in another perspective. What bothers me most with this, somewhat -please excuse my words- cold view is the pain inflicted on all involved. I do not have any deep personal ties to both of these countries, but a huge sympathy to their inhabitants. Plus, I think any death or injury, even on the Russian side, hits mostly innocent, but probably misguided persons. And all of that because of one man's aspirations. I'd rather like my and other's governments to be more involved in this conflict, and also to show some more balls in regard of weapons usage and support. Do they all really think that person's gonna push the button when totally cornered? Because that's what he is, alone in that Kremlin of his, depending on his mafia buddies.

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago

I would think that if shit ever seriously hit the fan for them he would suddenly find a lot less allies in his cabinet than he thought.

But that is very much an uninformed armchair opinion.

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