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Installing arch is fun but endeavour is just so much faster and the end result is the same for me
Controversial take, endeavor is Arch. Just without the major hurdles. I installed Gentoo once. I learned a lot. Things like, I never want to do that again. It was cool and all. But I'm good with click, install, and get on with my life. I do however like rolling releases and not having to wait years to have less outdated versions. Though to some extent flat paks are slowly alleviating that.
Also for some reason the image gives me serious Sam vibes.
That's because it is!
Manjaro feels that way to me too.
Arch like/lite? Sure. But without the ability to use the Aur safely you're missing nearly half or more of what Arch has to offer. I've waited a long time for a really good Linux distribution that had an easier usage curve than Gentoo while having a semi decent portage/ports system like the BSD do.
It can still definitely work for a quick and easy Linux gaming system. If your priority is Steam and Nvidia Graphics drivers installed no fuss. Then again so can nobara or the steamos variants.
I'm not going to lie or hate though. I absolutely ran manjaro first before moving on to proper Arch. It was just easy and painless until it got to things like ports and the Aur.
Considering that the AUR is a repo of build packages that are managed by users, it’s mostly unsafe because of that- not being in manjaro (which also uses pacman, and as far as I know just a different flavor.)
If you really want to use the AUR, you just have to turn it on. As with any package builds, it’s safe to use if you check the build and see what it does- and you need to be doing that in arch too. (Or not. Fun times.)
You aren't wrong about the aur. Similar could be said about flat packs snaps Etc however. We should always audit our systems regularly.
That said, Manjaro is different enough that even enabling the Aur is a bad idea. I know from experience as I've done several reinstalls Etc. Because of Manjaro issues with the aur. They really shouldn't even ship access to it. Because Manjaro does so many Breaking changes. It's one of many bad decisions on the part of Manjaros maintainers. Ubuntu may be Debian and based. But it's not Debian. Manjaro is the same.
The rest of them basically are Arch just with a few tweaks, themes, base install, and installer.
Same, I would just configure Arch to be like EOS anyway so I may as well make it easier on myself.
That was kinda my experience as well when I ran vanilla Arch for a bit, First day was just finding and installing stuff that already came on Endeavour.
After I had an SSD issue had to switch to another drive I didn't really see grabbing regular Arch again as worth the extra hassle.
Took me three tries not to read "Installing arch is a fun endeavour but is just so much faster..." lmao
And it is just arch after all, which is a good thing