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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Man the fuck up and outlaw it for everyone instead of this sneaky prohibition that only affect people that can't vote yet. It's such a cowardly, disingenuous way of doing it.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This method stops current smokers from being criminalised.

If you ban it like prohibition, you will instantaneously create a black market. Continually increasing the age you can buy cigarettes is easier. Everyone that this effects will not have the option to legally create a cigarette habit/addiction.

A straight up outlawing would have the maximum effect. But it would be costly to enforce, whilst increasing overall criminal activity.

[–] 2ncs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

They just need to outlaw the commercial production of cigarettes. I'm very anti cigarette personally, but at the end of the day, tobacco is a plant and should not be outlawed. But outlawing commercial products it makes tobacco legal and accessible to those who want it. With commercial cigarettes being less available, in guessing through either lack of convenience or lack of ability to act on an impulse, that the amount of smokers will drop.

[–] ledtasso@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That'll never happen, the tobacco industry is too big and too many jobs will be lost all at once, so it becomes highly politicized and loses popular support. With the proposed law, the tobacco industry at least has time to pivot to something else.

[–] 2ncs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

So let's give the companies that have lied about the harms and effects of their product a heads up? They never gave people who died of cancer when they knew it caused cancer but denied it. Moving the age will just give the time for the business owners to get more of the money out and fuck over the smaller employees anyways.

I honestly think there is no solution that doesn't have negative effects. I'm personally very against the banning of something (especially a plant) as a solution to a problem as it creates plenty more problems (see America's drug problems)

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