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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (57 children)

UBI is kind of cool but it has some massive flaws. For example: Landlords and groceries can just raise prices to bring the cost of living up and since there are no rent/price controls (because "that would be communism") we'll be right back to where we started. What you want is Universal Basic Services. Anything you need to live is free. Literally impossible for anyone to game that system and equally impossible for people to slip through the gaps, but it's also never going to happen because "that would be communism"

So yeah this is why capitalism has go to, because any attempt at actually making a just and fair society will be dismissed as "being communism"

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 65 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Landlords and groceries can just raise prices to bring the cost of living up

Sigh. People make this braindead argument every single time this subject comes up. No they can't. Markets do not work that way. It's literally just a repackaged argument against minimum wage and it has been thoroughly debunked in that context.

[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We should do away with using money for necessities. You want a pool, pay for it. A safe and sanitary living space? Free. Stop making people rely on something with no inherent value.

[–] reinar@distress.digital 3 points 1 year ago

safe and sanitary space in Manhattan can cost the same as mansion with a pool somewhere else.

With current global world simply existing in attractive locations could be luxury.

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