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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (9 children)

under qualified for the entry level position we were trying to fill.

Was it really "entry level" then?

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Yes. This wasn't an open "literally anyone can do it" job. It's entry level as in starting a path to a career. A certain aptitude is definitely necessary.

Let me ask you this, is a job that requires a two year degree and zero years of experience entry level? Because our requirements were even less than that.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

is a job that requires a two year degree and zero years of experience entry level?

Imo no, though companies use the term "entry level" VERY loosely.

Many career paths will substitute experience for a degree. But there need to be true entry level jobs to give them that experience.

It's okay if you want someone who's taken classes specific to your field, but I think it's misleading to then call the job "entry level".

[–] superkret@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So to you, "entry level" is literally just unskilled labor and nothing else?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sort of. "Unskilled labor" implies a certain job sector. I'm taking about the role that is currently served by internships, temp-to-hire, apprenticeships, on the job certifications, and people who lie about their experience and then underperform while they learn the role.

I guess I'd say "no prior experience needed" rather than "unskilled labor". The work itself can be "skilled" but the job applicant isn't (yet).

No matter how "skilled" you get at retail, it will always be considered "unskilled labor". That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the company that takes on a temp worker witg no prior experience, with the possibility of full time hire if they show promise. That's "entry-level".

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