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Why do people say "Catholics and Christians" in (USA) when Catholics are also Christians, as if they refer to it as a different religion. (lemmy.ml)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Hextubewontallowme@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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Is this some sort of remnant of evangelical puritan protestant ideology?

I don't understaun this.

If you ask me, it'd make as much sense as Orthodox and Christians.... or Shia and Muslim...

I know not all Christians are Catholics but for feck's sake...

They're all Christians to me....

Edit:

It's a U.S thing but this is the sort of things I hear...

https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

I am a Catholic. Why should I consider becoming a Christian?

I now know more distinctions (apparently Catholicism requires duty and salvation is process, unlike Protestantism?) but I still think they're of a similar branch (Christianity) so I just wonder the social factor

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[โ€“] unmagical@lemmy.ml 79 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Growing up in a "non-denominational", independent fundamental Baptist house I was always taught that Catholics weren't Christians because they worship idols. Now that I've left the faith I would easily classify them as being Christian.

While I think many people actually do classify them as Christians they do have some significant differences in their beliefs and practices than most Protestant denominations; and being themselves the largest Christian denomination by far it can be useful in some analysis to treat them as a distinct entity (the answer to "percentage of global population that subscribe to a particular religion" is much more interesting when broken into "Christian Catholic: %" and "Christian Other: %").

[โ€“] PatMustard@feddit.uk 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What does "non-denominational" mean? Isn't Baptist the denomination?

[โ€“] unmagical@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In this context it was meant as a joke. Several Baptist institutions incorrectly label themselves as being "non-denominational" even though they are completely ideologically aligned with the independent Baptist movement.

[โ€“] jaywalker@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

All the non-denominational churches are just a denominational church in denial. Pentecostals use it a lot too, but it's pretty obvious once you know

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